Ryan chats to the author of All American Poem, Matthew Dickman, in a noisy cafe across the road from the New York Public Library. They discuss pop culture and poetry, love, favourite poets and Dickman's development as a writer, among other things. Ryan also gives a short preview of who to expect from on the podcast in the next few months. Presented by Ryan Van Winkle from Flagstaff, Arizona. Produced by Colin Fraser @anonpoetry. Music by Ewen Maclean.